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Marsh
Viper :
1700
pts
(special combined force for a local tourny.)
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AG:
797
pts
(special combined force for a local tourny.)
997
pts
(Having looked through the site again, I found everyones
army lists, and said what I felt could be improved in the
forum. I now give others the chance to pull mine apart.
So here's the first, a 1000 point generic force. I was going
to give the 2000 as well, but just realised that I've made
a mistake.)
1993
pts
(Right, here's the 2000 point list.)
Comments:
please send me (Daigen) an email
with comments or post them on the Forum and I'll paste them
here
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Daigen:
1003
pts
(one version of Hive Fleet Typhoeus. Trying some different
things with this one. This list will be going up against
the Tau.)
998
pts
(one version of Hive Fleet Typhoeus. Built this list based
on the comments and tactics from fellow Hive Minds.)
1002
pts
(Similar to the list above but replaced the Behanaut for
some extra umph!)
Comments:
Just looked at the army lists. A few points need to be
made. Firstly, Winged Tyrants. Although the warp blast is
ever so tempting, be sure you're using it on the right models.
Having a winged tyrant, you want it to be in H2H by turn
2. That means you're only going to use this power once in
the battle. Once into H2H, you're not going to be leaving
it, that's the whole point of a winged tyrant. If you can
shoot at them, they can shoot at you... If you're using
it because you can shoot at the enemy before you enter H2H,
then maybe, but remember that you won't get your additional
attack for charging, and the kills won't count toward H2H
victory. This counts for quite a few of the lists, think
about using those points to bolster your troops.
With the warriors, if you're just using deathspitters and
venom cannons, then why give them toxin sacs. Again, these
points can be spent elsewhere, and having high strength
weapons isn't that useful if they a) don't instant kill
tougher creatures, ToxSacs take the wpns to S6 & 7,
so only take these if you're going to be up against T3 creatures,
and you don't think your gaunts can handle it. I've got
to admit, S6 deathspitters could be useful against low armour
enemies like eldar, gaurd and orks. Against Tau however,
the S6 venom cannon instant kills, and a S5 deathspitter
wounds as easily as a S6, and they get their saves on either.
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Doker:
739
pts - Updated version of the list below. (Hmm not to
much but i have only collected them since christmas).
875
pts
Comments:
With only 875 points, I feel that you've put too many into
the stealers, lictor and warriors. You need more gaunts
to absorb enemy firepower. The 'stealers will get torn apart
unless your opponent sees bigger threat, and the lack of
gaunts means that even if they do get into combat, they're
likely to be outnumbered. Gaunts work only in large numbers,
their stat line is really not that great in H2H, and if
they're only present in small groups, then a counter charge
will wipe them out. Warriors only have a 4+ save, even with
ext carapace, and with only T4 and no movement mutations
(leaping or wings), they're easy meat to any heavy weapon.
Even bolters/pulse rifles will tear through them in a relatively
short period of time.
The mutable genus gaunts- make up your own name for them,
that's the whole point- they're your troops.
Finally, the Biovore. Only take one, or at most two types
of spore mine. You can only fire one per turn, that's six
in a fairly long game. Are you really going to get that
much use out of them? Against IG, orks or eldar, take frag.
The S4 and AP 5 means that you'll be wounding on a 3+ and
most of their troops won't get a save.
Against Tau, use poison mines, always wound on a 4+ and
an AP of 4. This rips through Fire warriors and Kroot like
a scythe through corn. The bio acid is too expensive and
too unpredictable for my liking. The only use I've found
for it so far is anti vehicle, as it tends to completely
miss troops as often as hit them. ~AG
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George
Tinkham:
1999
pts
(and im thinking of breakin the warriors and raveners into
2 squads
so i have 2 warriors squads and 2 ravener squads)
1961
pts
(ok i got this now maybe i could make the death warriors
close combat monsters? 6 Warriors Strength Innitave Carapace)
Comments:
Have your raveners ever actually survived past turn 2?
180 points for four models that only have T4 and a 5+ save
is too much for my tastes.
As for the gaunts, have any of them got leaping? if not,
how do they survive long enough to make it into combat.
If I was facing your force I would focus fire on the HT
and warriors for the first turn or two, (believe me, this
will normally kill them), then turn my attention to raveners
and gaunts. If you only have a single hive node in each
brood, then your opponent will start using blast markers
etc in order to kill it. Once gone, your gaunts are history,
as they will only have a Ld of 5. Either get more hive nodes,
or make them faster. The need to be an imminent threat,
if not, they'll be ignored for jucier targets for the first
couple of turns. I think that's about it, I really didn't
mean to insult anyone, and if it has been taken this way
then I apologise. I am merely expressing my opinion. I will
try to get 1000, 2000, 3000 and 4000 point army lists put
together from my own forces, allowing you lot to dissassemble
my force in a like manner as soon as I can. Once again,
I stress that these are simply my opinions, so feel free
to ignore me completely. ~AG
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